DOES GOD EXIST?
DOES GOD EXIST?
Interesting question isn’t it. Yes or No. One of these answers is correct. One of these answers is wrong. It’s a 50/50 chance of guessing right. It’s a 50/50 chance of guessing wrong. People have gone for both answers right through history. If we ignore the fact that God has been defined and re-defined many thousands of times, it still boils down to that one question. If the correct answer is Yes then many people must have got further answer’s wrong but before you can decide who He/She/It/They are you first must make up your mind about that simple, 50/50 question. Does God Exist?
Well? Does He?
Let’s take a look at Life and attempt to finally answer the question that has plagued mankind since somebody paused to wonder why he was at the top of the food chain, while his hunting partner was eaten by a lion. He must have frowned and thought “I rule the Earth. WHY? Is it to do with some higher being? Lets call him God. Does God exist?”
Well let’s attempt to answer the question now, shall we?
OK
Take 3 theoretical cases.
Case Study 1. A girl is born in Scotland to a happy family. She goes to school, gets life long friends. She became a reasonably successful author and she spends some time doing a trip round the world. She lived to see her 100th birthday and died peacefully and happy a few months later
Case Study 2. A boy is born on the same day in the slums in India. He is HIV+ from day one. He is discriminated against and dies due to lack of treatment and understanding by the age of 4. Given treatment he would have lived to 56 and would have spent a lot of time working in a call centre.
Case Study 3. Another boy is born in New York. To a loving family that have already sighed him up to the best school money can afford. Despite doctor’s efforts he dies due to complications at birth.
Unfair? I’d say so.
Look at the lives these people were destined to live. Supposing they’d all lived, their lives and opportunities were drastically different just because of where they were born and to whom. And yet, one lived, one died of medical problems and one, essentially, was killed by the society that he was born into.
Here we have to draw a conclusion that we already know.
Life is Unfair.
OK, so you already knew that. Well it’s a big step to figuring out the question - Does God Exist? The fact is going to help us get an answer of Yes or No.
OK, we have to ask ourselves if Life is unfair why is it unfair. Why would God allow one to die and one to live? Why wouldn’t He give everyone the same chance? Or if that would be boring give people different chances, but for crying out loud, give them some chance. Look back at our case studies. The baby dieing at birth didn’t get much of a shot. Why’d He take him and let the Scottish woman live to 100?
For those who answered No to “Does God Exist?” that is the very simple answer. He doesn’t and life is a random thing that happened in the Universe. End of story. Next blog please.
For those who answered Yes to “Does God Exist?” there is a very common answer that is rolled out. It is an explanation that people give to you on a plate without really thinking about it. It is this
Everything is part of a large bold plan. It’s not our place to question it. Just sit back and accept that He will get to the point soon enough.
Personally I think this is a nice way of not answering the question. If it’s all a big plan then why’s He taking so long to get to the bloody point? I’ve heard of beating around the bush but this is ridiculous!
And think about any plan you’ve ever made. A plan is something you make in order to achieve a set goal or goals. For example, if you go into a supermarket you plan is to get everything on your shopping list. You have the plan to go down aisle 1 for the bread, and aisle 3 for you fish, missing out aisle 2, as you know that nothing you need is there. Then you continue to work your way through the store right up till aisle 31 – ice cream. And think about it. You don’t go down aisle 1; head for 31 and troop back to 3 do you. The reason everyone goes through a supermarket methodically is the same. To save time and effort
This is what a plan is. It is something you make to get your goal(s) done in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible.
Honestly. A student’s exam timetable. A robber’s plan to rob the bank. Driving to the cinema. Planning for an interview. A mechanic fixing a car. A builder building a house. An author planning a story. A minister planning a sermon. A traveller planning a route round a country. A dressmaker altering a dress. A team playing football. Anyone who makes a plan is making it in order to obtain a certain objective in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible.
Right. OK. So now that we can think about what a plan is lets have a look at the argument again. And then compare it to what a plan is.
Everything is part of a large bold plan. It’s not our place to question it. Just sit back and accept that He will get to the point soon enough.
A plan something you make to get your goal(s) done in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible
Hm…. Even if we accept that there is a final goal you’d have thought that he might have got to his point by now. How long has he had now?! Unless something has happened along the way this argument is just a way of not answering the question and is rolled out way too quickly and easily.
WAIT A SECOND!!!! You just said, “Unless something has happened” What does that mean?!
Ok, what if God did exist but then he died?
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
God could be mortal.
If God did create us then its more probable to assume that the creature is mortal rather than immortal. We have no evidence whatsoever that immortality is even possible. Maybe he caught the God’s version of the plague and died.
Why does he have to live forever to be God?
And if God could conceivably have an end, what about its beginning.
Where did God come from?
OK, you take a Mummy God and a Daddy God and if they love each other very much they will create a Baby God.
WHAT!!!!! BABY GOD!!!!!!
Hang on, stay with me here. What if we’re some baby God experiment that after he lost in the ‘Create Life competition’ to the Science Geek God, who created something better, shelved the earth and forgot about us. If we define God till the end of this paragraph as our creator, what if God is actually a little green professor called Quje from the Planet Zog?
But whether it was Quje or a big baby mystical being it is at least possible that the creature has a beginning, middle and an end to His life. Or maybe he had a beginning, middle and an end to his life. Hm… Think about this for a second here. He planned to get to a point, died before he did, and his little creation was simply left to get on with it, spinning into a world of Unfairness.
Does God Exist? Maybe a third answer be – He did, but doesn’t any longer.
Hm… That would be in the ‘No’ category but it brings me to the realisation that our question needs a slight addition in order to remain a 50\50 chance.
Does God Exist NOW?
Well? Does he?
OK, let me boil this down for a second. If this is a large plan I don’t think he’s still around because he is taking such a long time to come to the point. It is possible that at the beginning something had a plan but either died or got bored with us and moved onto better things leaving us to our own defences. If this is the case then maybe we should have a holiday celebrating his birthday and stop doing all this religious jazz as there is nobody listening.
But what if there is somebody listening? Lets think of alternatives. If he is here he is obviously doing something more than simply getting to the end of a large plan. If he is here he must be doing something more or something different.
But What?
Lets think. Supposing for a second here that it is Quje from Planet Zog. Maybe he is getting a lot of valuable information on Life from his little experiment that is benefiting Life elsewhere in the Universe and in order to get accurate data he needs life to think of God. Any ‘miracle’ that people have supposedly seen has simply been Quje getting a little more information that helps life on Planet Zog to run a little more smoothly. This explanation atchetly fits like a glove if you think about it. Life is Unfair, simply because its random, but Quje defined as ‘God’ because he created us, does exist.
Strangely enough I feel that people who originally answered ‘no’ to “Does God Exist?” will be more drawn to this conclusion than people who answered ‘yes’. Nobody likes to be taken for a fool and in order to accept this conclusion you need to dramatically redefine God as a small green mortal being and realise that you’ve spent all that time in church preying to him. Its easier to say that this conclusion is rubbish than atchetly consider the possibility and as humans always take the easy way out of any situation, anyone who believes in God is not going to give this idea a second thought.
Go back to the highly improbable immortal, mystical being. What if he has lost control somehow and has no way of influencing anything? Well what is the point in being there at all Mr God? If all He is doing is watching helplessly on then he might as well move on. If this is the case then the answer to “Does God Exist Now?” is “Well, yes, but he might as well not be for all the good he’s doing.”
Good? We’ve already examined the possibility that God is mortal. Why does God have to be good?
What is God is bad?
What if he lies back in a big armchair watching us and laughing at all the unfairness and suffering? This idea doesn’t really bare thinking about. Life is Unfair and ‘God’ is getting a jolly good belly laugh out of it as he watches a painful birth on his computer and then, as the child is still crying with pain, he hits delete. This sends shivers down the spine, the more you think about it.
Going back to Mr Quje from Zog for a minute. What if his information is actually for evil?
That’s a horrible answer. “Does God Exist Now?” “Well Yes, but he’s evil.”
Like the idea of Mr Quje believers will dismiss this as rubbish as they don’t want to think they’ve spent all that time in church preying to someone who is evil. He’s laughing harder still whenever people praise him. It doesn’t bare thinking about.
Lets face it. Anyone who firmly believes in God needs God to be an all forgiving, all good, immortal being. People believe that this is possible even though there is no proof that any of it is possible. All forgiving? Everyone has something that they would not be able to simply look over and forgive. All good? Nobody is good all the time. And nothing we know of is immortal, nor is there any sort of proof that immortality is even possible.
I find this pretty little picture of God as very, very, very, extremely, highly improbable, so close to impossible that the line between the 2 is virtually non-existent. If you want to make the leap of faith and take those odds be my guest, but you wouldn’t take them in a casino where your money’s at stake, why take them now when the way you live your life’s at stake?
Despite this I think many believers reading this are still going to take that tiny atom of a chance that the all-good, forgiving, immortal being exists, rather than think about the more probable alternatives. One I would like to put forward here. It was mentioned at the beginning but lets think about it for a moment.
What if the answer to “Does God Exist?” is, quite simply “No”?
Lets go back to our thinking hunter wondering why he rules the earth. Evolution and chance provide an alternative explanation. We just did. It was a race to rule the earth and we won. Then when we had we wondered why we had. Then humans created this thing called “God” to explain the fact they had got there first. Throughout history Gods have come and gone with many festivals created, many as societies decided to merge Gods together. In order to make the fantasy more believable customs and stories were made up and over time people looked at one another wondering if they were true and many people decided that they were creating faith. They decided that they were because they couldn’t believe that something like Life could possibly be random and people believe this to this day.
Many years ago this is how God and the whole mess was created. This is the start of God
“We’re in charge of the Earth. Life is full and plentiful. This can’t be random. Lets believe something created it shall we? Lets call it God. He needs to be good because nobody will want a bad God. He needs to be immortal because nobody will want a mortal God. He needs to NOT be Quje from Zog, just another random little life form because we need something far more powerful than ourselves. Where did he come from you ask? Em…well if he is immortal maybe he didn’t have a beginning. OH! Here's a good idea! Be good and he will reward you, be bad and he will punish you. What did you say? You’ve never seen anyone being rewarded or punished? When could it happen? Em.. OH what if it happens after you die? Yes, that’s good. Sorry what did you say? Bodies are here and the good and bad get the same. Em…well, I know, why don’t we have things that leave the body? A theoretical thing. Lets call it a sole shall we and then God rewards or punishes your sole. Yes that fits.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the start of God.
This is a nice flexible basic principle for religion. It allows you to have as many Gods as you want, name them, have all sorts of stories about the good and the bad and allows each new religion that comes along to have their God(s) controlling as much or as little as they see fit. Out of all the religions these are the basics with all the enjoyable little extras added on around it. Some even got more Gods into the mix so that they could have bad Gods as well as good ones, as well as giving some of their Gods colourful beginnings. Going so far as having the odd God death appearing in the history of religion. Lets face it. As long as you have your one big, powerful, all good, immortal God, why not have some fun creating loads of others where you can then break all the rules from what people want in the God at the top.
Not every religion does this to be fair, some simply stick to the one improbable, immortal, all good guy somehow, inconceivably, controlling everything at once. But the principle is the same; they just ignored the idea of other Gods although most religions that I have any knowledge of at the very least seem to have some sort of bad guy.
And the idea of a sole is a nice touch. There is nothing to be seen in this life that would suggest reward or punishment by a God, but if we have an essence that goes somewhere after you die, you can then make the next life whatever you want it to be. Create your own punishments and rewards for the bad and the good and hope that nobody asks the question of where the dog goes or what happens to the innocent newborn baby.
So, like any good conclusion, I need to return to the original question. “Does God Exist?”
Like I said, I don’t think it’s the all-good, immortal being. Nobody can be good all the time, and I find it hard to see how something could not die eventually. The all-bad immortal being is equally as unlikely, but anyone who wants to take the odds of the good one, needs to also take the same odds for the bad one. One might say there is good in the world, but then there is also bad and life in general is unfair. Quje from Zog I find fractionally more believable, but only because the solution fits without too much force. In order to make a God fit you need to add something (i.e. a sole) that He can reward or punish, as well as creating a reason why an immortal good guy allows life to be unfair and why he’s hiding. In order to make Quje fit all you need to do is add his flying ship orbiting the Earth and your there.
The idea that a large mortal being created the earth and then died is a possibility (or went away, or forgot about us ect). The atual circumstances are not important. The point is that we are now on our own and can now dispense with religion. But if he has gone away then the answer to “Does God Exist Now?” would be a “yes, but he might as well not be.”
I find it highly probable that Humans simply created God out of a necessity to explain themselves. This argument is defiantly in the “No” pile
So finally back to the question – “Does God Exist?” hm…. I’m doubtful. Maybe he did.
Does God Exist Now? – I find myself undecided.
Does God Exist Now And Here?” I feel that this might at last be the right, relevant, question and I have my answer. I’m unsure as to whether or not he did or does exist, and it is possible that he still exists and is somewhere else, floating around at some distant part of the Universe, but is he here and now, listening, helping?
Sorry folks. The answer is “No”
David Lyon
Interesting question isn’t it. Yes or No. One of these answers is correct. One of these answers is wrong. It’s a 50/50 chance of guessing right. It’s a 50/50 chance of guessing wrong. People have gone for both answers right through history. If we ignore the fact that God has been defined and re-defined many thousands of times, it still boils down to that one question. If the correct answer is Yes then many people must have got further answer’s wrong but before you can decide who He/She/It/They are you first must make up your mind about that simple, 50/50 question. Does God Exist?
Well? Does He?
Let’s take a look at Life and attempt to finally answer the question that has plagued mankind since somebody paused to wonder why he was at the top of the food chain, while his hunting partner was eaten by a lion. He must have frowned and thought “I rule the Earth. WHY? Is it to do with some higher being? Lets call him God. Does God exist?”
Well let’s attempt to answer the question now, shall we?
OK
Take 3 theoretical cases.
Case Study 1. A girl is born in Scotland to a happy family. She goes to school, gets life long friends. She became a reasonably successful author and she spends some time doing a trip round the world. She lived to see her 100th birthday and died peacefully and happy a few months later
Case Study 2. A boy is born on the same day in the slums in India. He is HIV+ from day one. He is discriminated against and dies due to lack of treatment and understanding by the age of 4. Given treatment he would have lived to 56 and would have spent a lot of time working in a call centre.
Case Study 3. Another boy is born in New York. To a loving family that have already sighed him up to the best school money can afford. Despite doctor’s efforts he dies due to complications at birth.
Unfair? I’d say so.
Look at the lives these people were destined to live. Supposing they’d all lived, their lives and opportunities were drastically different just because of where they were born and to whom. And yet, one lived, one died of medical problems and one, essentially, was killed by the society that he was born into.
Here we have to draw a conclusion that we already know.
Life is Unfair.
OK, so you already knew that. Well it’s a big step to figuring out the question - Does God Exist? The fact is going to help us get an answer of Yes or No.
OK, we have to ask ourselves if Life is unfair why is it unfair. Why would God allow one to die and one to live? Why wouldn’t He give everyone the same chance? Or if that would be boring give people different chances, but for crying out loud, give them some chance. Look back at our case studies. The baby dieing at birth didn’t get much of a shot. Why’d He take him and let the Scottish woman live to 100?
For those who answered No to “Does God Exist?” that is the very simple answer. He doesn’t and life is a random thing that happened in the Universe. End of story. Next blog please.
For those who answered Yes to “Does God Exist?” there is a very common answer that is rolled out. It is an explanation that people give to you on a plate without really thinking about it. It is this
Everything is part of a large bold plan. It’s not our place to question it. Just sit back and accept that He will get to the point soon enough.
Personally I think this is a nice way of not answering the question. If it’s all a big plan then why’s He taking so long to get to the bloody point? I’ve heard of beating around the bush but this is ridiculous!
And think about any plan you’ve ever made. A plan is something you make in order to achieve a set goal or goals. For example, if you go into a supermarket you plan is to get everything on your shopping list. You have the plan to go down aisle 1 for the bread, and aisle 3 for you fish, missing out aisle 2, as you know that nothing you need is there. Then you continue to work your way through the store right up till aisle 31 – ice cream. And think about it. You don’t go down aisle 1; head for 31 and troop back to 3 do you. The reason everyone goes through a supermarket methodically is the same. To save time and effort
This is what a plan is. It is something you make to get your goal(s) done in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible.
Honestly. A student’s exam timetable. A robber’s plan to rob the bank. Driving to the cinema. Planning for an interview. A mechanic fixing a car. A builder building a house. An author planning a story. A minister planning a sermon. A traveller planning a route round a country. A dressmaker altering a dress. A team playing football. Anyone who makes a plan is making it in order to obtain a certain objective in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible.
Right. OK. So now that we can think about what a plan is lets have a look at the argument again. And then compare it to what a plan is.
Everything is part of a large bold plan. It’s not our place to question it. Just sit back and accept that He will get to the point soon enough.
A plan something you make to get your goal(s) done in the quickest, easiest and most efficient way possible
Hm…. Even if we accept that there is a final goal you’d have thought that he might have got to his point by now. How long has he had now?! Unless something has happened along the way this argument is just a way of not answering the question and is rolled out way too quickly and easily.
WAIT A SECOND!!!! You just said, “Unless something has happened” What does that mean?!
Ok, what if God did exist but then he died?
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
God could be mortal.
If God did create us then its more probable to assume that the creature is mortal rather than immortal. We have no evidence whatsoever that immortality is even possible. Maybe he caught the God’s version of the plague and died.
Why does he have to live forever to be God?
And if God could conceivably have an end, what about its beginning.
Where did God come from?
OK, you take a Mummy God and a Daddy God and if they love each other very much they will create a Baby God.
WHAT!!!!! BABY GOD!!!!!!
Hang on, stay with me here. What if we’re some baby God experiment that after he lost in the ‘Create Life competition’ to the Science Geek God, who created something better, shelved the earth and forgot about us. If we define God till the end of this paragraph as our creator, what if God is actually a little green professor called Quje from the Planet Zog?
But whether it was Quje or a big baby mystical being it is at least possible that the creature has a beginning, middle and an end to His life. Or maybe he had a beginning, middle and an end to his life. Hm… Think about this for a second here. He planned to get to a point, died before he did, and his little creation was simply left to get on with it, spinning into a world of Unfairness.
Does God Exist? Maybe a third answer be – He did, but doesn’t any longer.
Hm… That would be in the ‘No’ category but it brings me to the realisation that our question needs a slight addition in order to remain a 50\50 chance.
Does God Exist NOW?
Well? Does he?
OK, let me boil this down for a second. If this is a large plan I don’t think he’s still around because he is taking such a long time to come to the point. It is possible that at the beginning something had a plan but either died or got bored with us and moved onto better things leaving us to our own defences. If this is the case then maybe we should have a holiday celebrating his birthday and stop doing all this religious jazz as there is nobody listening.
But what if there is somebody listening? Lets think of alternatives. If he is here he is obviously doing something more than simply getting to the end of a large plan. If he is here he must be doing something more or something different.
But What?
Lets think. Supposing for a second here that it is Quje from Planet Zog. Maybe he is getting a lot of valuable information on Life from his little experiment that is benefiting Life elsewhere in the Universe and in order to get accurate data he needs life to think of God. Any ‘miracle’ that people have supposedly seen has simply been Quje getting a little more information that helps life on Planet Zog to run a little more smoothly. This explanation atchetly fits like a glove if you think about it. Life is Unfair, simply because its random, but Quje defined as ‘God’ because he created us, does exist.
Strangely enough I feel that people who originally answered ‘no’ to “Does God Exist?” will be more drawn to this conclusion than people who answered ‘yes’. Nobody likes to be taken for a fool and in order to accept this conclusion you need to dramatically redefine God as a small green mortal being and realise that you’ve spent all that time in church preying to him. Its easier to say that this conclusion is rubbish than atchetly consider the possibility and as humans always take the easy way out of any situation, anyone who believes in God is not going to give this idea a second thought.
Go back to the highly improbable immortal, mystical being. What if he has lost control somehow and has no way of influencing anything? Well what is the point in being there at all Mr God? If all He is doing is watching helplessly on then he might as well move on. If this is the case then the answer to “Does God Exist Now?” is “Well, yes, but he might as well not be for all the good he’s doing.”
Good? We’ve already examined the possibility that God is mortal. Why does God have to be good?
What is God is bad?
What if he lies back in a big armchair watching us and laughing at all the unfairness and suffering? This idea doesn’t really bare thinking about. Life is Unfair and ‘God’ is getting a jolly good belly laugh out of it as he watches a painful birth on his computer and then, as the child is still crying with pain, he hits delete. This sends shivers down the spine, the more you think about it.
Going back to Mr Quje from Zog for a minute. What if his information is actually for evil?
That’s a horrible answer. “Does God Exist Now?” “Well Yes, but he’s evil.”
Like the idea of Mr Quje believers will dismiss this as rubbish as they don’t want to think they’ve spent all that time in church preying to someone who is evil. He’s laughing harder still whenever people praise him. It doesn’t bare thinking about.
Lets face it. Anyone who firmly believes in God needs God to be an all forgiving, all good, immortal being. People believe that this is possible even though there is no proof that any of it is possible. All forgiving? Everyone has something that they would not be able to simply look over and forgive. All good? Nobody is good all the time. And nothing we know of is immortal, nor is there any sort of proof that immortality is even possible.
I find this pretty little picture of God as very, very, very, extremely, highly improbable, so close to impossible that the line between the 2 is virtually non-existent. If you want to make the leap of faith and take those odds be my guest, but you wouldn’t take them in a casino where your money’s at stake, why take them now when the way you live your life’s at stake?
Despite this I think many believers reading this are still going to take that tiny atom of a chance that the all-good, forgiving, immortal being exists, rather than think about the more probable alternatives. One I would like to put forward here. It was mentioned at the beginning but lets think about it for a moment.
What if the answer to “Does God Exist?” is, quite simply “No”?
Lets go back to our thinking hunter wondering why he rules the earth. Evolution and chance provide an alternative explanation. We just did. It was a race to rule the earth and we won. Then when we had we wondered why we had. Then humans created this thing called “God” to explain the fact they had got there first. Throughout history Gods have come and gone with many festivals created, many as societies decided to merge Gods together. In order to make the fantasy more believable customs and stories were made up and over time people looked at one another wondering if they were true and many people decided that they were creating faith. They decided that they were because they couldn’t believe that something like Life could possibly be random and people believe this to this day.
Many years ago this is how God and the whole mess was created. This is the start of God
“We’re in charge of the Earth. Life is full and plentiful. This can’t be random. Lets believe something created it shall we? Lets call it God. He needs to be good because nobody will want a bad God. He needs to be immortal because nobody will want a mortal God. He needs to NOT be Quje from Zog, just another random little life form because we need something far more powerful than ourselves. Where did he come from you ask? Em…well if he is immortal maybe he didn’t have a beginning. OH! Here's a good idea! Be good and he will reward you, be bad and he will punish you. What did you say? You’ve never seen anyone being rewarded or punished? When could it happen? Em.. OH what if it happens after you die? Yes, that’s good. Sorry what did you say? Bodies are here and the good and bad get the same. Em…well, I know, why don’t we have things that leave the body? A theoretical thing. Lets call it a sole shall we and then God rewards or punishes your sole. Yes that fits.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the start of God.
This is a nice flexible basic principle for religion. It allows you to have as many Gods as you want, name them, have all sorts of stories about the good and the bad and allows each new religion that comes along to have their God(s) controlling as much or as little as they see fit. Out of all the religions these are the basics with all the enjoyable little extras added on around it. Some even got more Gods into the mix so that they could have bad Gods as well as good ones, as well as giving some of their Gods colourful beginnings. Going so far as having the odd God death appearing in the history of religion. Lets face it. As long as you have your one big, powerful, all good, immortal God, why not have some fun creating loads of others where you can then break all the rules from what people want in the God at the top.
Not every religion does this to be fair, some simply stick to the one improbable, immortal, all good guy somehow, inconceivably, controlling everything at once. But the principle is the same; they just ignored the idea of other Gods although most religions that I have any knowledge of at the very least seem to have some sort of bad guy.
And the idea of a sole is a nice touch. There is nothing to be seen in this life that would suggest reward or punishment by a God, but if we have an essence that goes somewhere after you die, you can then make the next life whatever you want it to be. Create your own punishments and rewards for the bad and the good and hope that nobody asks the question of where the dog goes or what happens to the innocent newborn baby.
So, like any good conclusion, I need to return to the original question. “Does God Exist?”
Like I said, I don’t think it’s the all-good, immortal being. Nobody can be good all the time, and I find it hard to see how something could not die eventually. The all-bad immortal being is equally as unlikely, but anyone who wants to take the odds of the good one, needs to also take the same odds for the bad one. One might say there is good in the world, but then there is also bad and life in general is unfair. Quje from Zog I find fractionally more believable, but only because the solution fits without too much force. In order to make a God fit you need to add something (i.e. a sole) that He can reward or punish, as well as creating a reason why an immortal good guy allows life to be unfair and why he’s hiding. In order to make Quje fit all you need to do is add his flying ship orbiting the Earth and your there.
The idea that a large mortal being created the earth and then died is a possibility (or went away, or forgot about us ect). The atual circumstances are not important. The point is that we are now on our own and can now dispense with religion. But if he has gone away then the answer to “Does God Exist Now?” would be a “yes, but he might as well not be.”
I find it highly probable that Humans simply created God out of a necessity to explain themselves. This argument is defiantly in the “No” pile
So finally back to the question – “Does God Exist?” hm…. I’m doubtful. Maybe he did.
Does God Exist Now? – I find myself undecided.
Does God Exist Now And Here?” I feel that this might at last be the right, relevant, question and I have my answer. I’m unsure as to whether or not he did or does exist, and it is possible that he still exists and is somewhere else, floating around at some distant part of the Universe, but is he here and now, listening, helping?
Sorry folks. The answer is “No”
David Lyon
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"Nature is not cruel, only pitilessly indifferent. This is one of the hardest lessons for humans to learn. We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous--indifferent to all suffering, lacking all purpose."
Dawkins maybe right... but you can't not enjoy the dance. Good blog mate.
Battle lines are forming on the web for a confrontation so contentious, any clash of civilizations will have to wait its turn. On one side, a single manuscript by an unknown author titled: The Final Freedoms, against all the gravitas religious tradition can bring to bear.
This, the first wholly new interpretation for 2000 years of the moral teachings of Jesus the Christ focuses specifically on marriage and human sexuality, challenging all natural law theory and theology. At stake is the credibility of several thousand years of religious history.
What at first appears an utterly preposterous challenge to the religious status quo rewards those who persevere in closer examination, for it carries within its pages an idea both subtle and sublime, what the combined intellectual histories of religion and science have either ignored or dismissed as impossible. An error of presumption which could now leave tradition staring into the abyss and humble the heights of scientific speculation. For if this material is confirmed, and there appears to be both the means and a concerted effort to authenticate it, the greatest unresolved questions of human existence may finally have been untangled.
Published only on the web and distributed free as a pdf download, made up of twenty nine chapters and three hundred and seventy pages, this new teaching has nothing whatsoever to do with any existing religious conception known to history. It is unique in every respect.
Using a synthesis of scriptural material from the Old and New Testaments, the Apocrypha , The Dead Sea Scrolls,The Nag Hammadi Library, and some of the worlds greatest poetry, it describes and teaches a single moral LAW, a single moral principle and offers its own proof; one in which the reality of God responds to an act of perfect faith with a direct, individual intervention into the natural world; making a correction to human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness, human ethical perception, and providing new, primary insight and understanding of the human condition.
Also called the Gospel of the Resurrection, this new interpretation reveals the moral foundation of all human thought and conduct and finds expression within a new covenant of human spiritual union, the marriage [Hieros gamos] between one man and one woman. It resolves the most intractable questions and issues of human sexuality and offers possibilities for peace, health, healing and cultural development political process has yet to dream of.
This new teaching is pure ethics. It requires no institutional framework, no churches, no priest craft, no scholastic theological rational, costs nothing and ‘worship’ requires only conviction, faith and the necessary measure of self discipline to accomplish a new moral imperative.
As the first ever religious teaching able to demonstrate its own efficacy, the first ever religious claim to knowledge that meets both the ideal and criteria of the most rigourous, testable scientific method, this teaching enters the public domain as a reality entirely new to human history and available for anyone to test, discover and confirm for themselves.
The beginnings of an intellectual and moral revolution are unfolding on the web. And anyone trying to imagine where solutions to the worlds most difficult conundrums will come from, may comprehend from this material, the catalyst that might very well define the very future of humanity and the earth itself!
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Well done. I don't think I've ever read someone go through the whole basic question and unwrap it in such a simple manner as you just did :).
does God exist? without a doubt! you cannot have matter from non matter, you cannot get intelligence from non intelligence....and why is the world in the state it's in? well look at where poverty comes from...look at where evil eminates from..... the heart of man!!!! that friends is our great problem our own hearts. do you believe in only what you can touch, taste, smell, see and hear? well do you have a conscience? that little voice which is the you inside you! that natural awareness of morality that was never taught.....what do you mean never taught well just look at the small child who has the awareness of right and wrong....we're born with it....we didn't create it ourselves.
does God exist? well why don't you go to you're knees and ask Him honestly and sincerly show me if you exist.
Jesus said;"i came to save sinners and not the righteous"
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